[Mansa-l] Mande/Manding terms

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Dear Bruce, Kassim, Don and all other Mansadenw,

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while I do agree largely to the explications concerning the 9 Mande/Mandin=
g terms, I wanna add on two notes to Kassim's and Don's :

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woolloo : As speculated by Don, this term has some true resemblance to the=
 term wula (afternoon), nevertheless it appears to be worth of having an e=
ye for the term wolo which means

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# give birth (accoucher and venir au monde in French; intransitive)

# give birth to (mettre au monde in French; transitive)

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In German, we have a nice expression for "to be born" which says "das Lich=
t der Welt erblicken" (in English "to see the light of the world (for the =
first time)). This moment, that means, this day we all celebrate year by y=
ear as our birthday. So, maybe the semantics of this term has changed from=
 a very special to a very general term, id est, from birthday to day ...=20

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nigee : As to me, I don't think it's a Mande/Manding term but one of the F=
ula language. The Bamana term for "bull" is ntura. Do we have a look on to=
 the Fula language which is the most important language in Guinea : the te=
rm for "bull" in Fula is ngaari or ga'al too (and nga'i in plural). The te=
rm for "cow" in Fula is nagge (and nai in plural) ... To me, it's some evi=
dence between nigee and these Fula terms. Nevertheless, what's possibly Ma=
nde/Manding-like in nigee =3F! Maybe it's -gee which resembles the Bamana mo=
rpheme -ke (< ce "man, male, husband") needed for the differentiation of t=
he sexe (for example : misi > misike, misimuso) ...

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Best greetings to all, hgb

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(P.S. : Please let me say a hearty hello particularly to Karim Traor=E9 ... =
K'an ben sooni. Ko n be somogow fo !!! hgb)

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ify"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Dear Bruce, Kassi=
m, Don&nbsp;and all other Mansadenw,</SPAN></P><P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"M=
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0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: V=
erdana">while I do agree largely to the explications concerning the 9 Mand=
e/Manding terms, I wanna add on&nbsp;two notes to Kassim's and Don's :</SP=
AN></P><P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"=
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lass=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN styl=
e=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><STRONG><U>woolloo</U></STRONG> =
: As speculated by Don, this term has some true resemblance to the term <S=
TRONG>wula</STRONG> (afternoon), nevertheless it appears to be worth of ha=
ving an eye for the term <STRONG>wolo</STRONG> which means</SPAN></P><P cl=
ass=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN style=
=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"></SPAN>&nbsp;</P><P class=3DMsoNorm=
al style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE=
: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"># &nbsp;give birth (<EM>accoucher</EM> and <=
EM>venir au monde</EM> in French; intransitive)</SPAN></P><P class=3DMsoNorm=
al style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE=
: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"># &nbsp;give birth to (<EM>mettre au monde</=
EM> in French; transitive)</SPAN></P><P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm=
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Verdana"></SPAN>&nbsp;</P><P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; T=
EXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">In=
 German, we have a nice expression for "to be born"&nbsp;which says "das L=
icht der Welt erblicken" (in English "to see the light of the world (for t=
he first time)). This moment, that means, this day we all celebrate year b=
y year as our birth<STRONG>day</STRONG>. So, maybe the semantics of this t=
erm has changed from a very special to a very general term, id est, from b=
irthday to day ... </SPAN></P><P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0p=
t; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana=
"></SPAN>&nbsp;</P><P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALI=
GN: justify"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><STRONG><=
U>nigee</U></STRONG> : As to me, I don't think it's a Mande/Manding term b=
ut&nbsp;one of the Fula language. The Bamana term for "bull" is <STRONG>nt=
ura</STRONG>. Do we have a look on to the Fula language which is the most =
important language in Guinea : the term for "bull" in Fula is <STRONG>ngaa=
ri</STRONG>&nbsp;or <STRONG>ga'al</STRONG>&nbsp;too (and <STRONG>nga'i</ST=
RONG> in plural). The term for "cow" in Fula is&nbsp;<STRONG>nagge</STRONG=
> (and <STRONG>nai</STRONG> in plural) ... To me, it's some evidence betwe=
en <STRONG>nigee</STRONG> and these Fula terms. Nevertheless, what's possi=
bly Mande/Manding-like in <STRONG>nigee</STRONG> =3F! Maybe it's <STRONG>-ge=
e</STRONG> which resembles the Bamana morpheme <STRONG>-ke</STRONG>&nbsp;(=
&lt; <STRONG>ce</STRONG> "man, male, husband") needed for the differentiat=
ion of the sexe (for example : <STRONG>misi</STRONG> &gt; <STRONG>misike</=
STRONG>, <STRONG>misimuso</STRONG>) ...</SPAN></P><P class=3DMsoNormal style=
=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; =
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cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY=
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